Friday, December 9, 2011

Holiday Closing

The Woodbine Public Library will be closed December 24th for Christmas and December 31st for New Years. The Woodbine Public Library would like to wish everyone a very Happy and Safe Holiday Season.  Merry Christmas from The Woodbine Public Library!

Wednesday, November 23, 2011

BOOK BLURBS

Children:

The Artist Who Painted a Blue Horse by Eric Carle
Belle: The Amazing, Astonishingly Magical Journey of an Artfully Painted Lady by Mary Lee Corlett
Heaven is for Real for Kids by Todd Burpo
National Geographic Little Kids First Big Book of Dionsaurs by Catherine D. Hughes
Do You See, What I see? Toyland Express by Walter Wick
Ugly Snowflake by Micki Mchary

Easy Readers:

Carl and the Kitten by Alexandra Day

Early Chapter Readers:

Cam Jansen and the Graduation Day Mystery by David A. Adler
Hank the Cowdog: The Case of the Mysterious Voice by John R. Erickson

Middle Readers:

At First Bite: A Poision Apple Book by Ruth Ames
Fetching by Kiera Stewart
Poptropica: The Offical Guide by Tracey West

Teens:

The Daughters Join the Party by Joanna Philbin
Destined: A House of Night Novel by P. C. Cast & Kristin Cast
Inheritance: Or the Vault of Souls by Christopher Paolini
Ranger's Apprentice: The Lost Stories by John Flanagan
The Heroes of Olympus: The Sone of Neptune by Rick Riordan

Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Halloween Coloring Contest

The Woodbine Youth Library is having a Halloween Coloring Contest for kids in grades Kindergarten through 3rd.  Stop in to the Woodbine Youth Library anytime between now and October 21st to pick up a coloring sheet, all sheets need to be turned in by 9:00AM October 22, 2011 to be judged.  A first, second and third place winner will be chosen and all pictures will be displayed in the library for Halloween!

Tuesday, October 4, 2011

Story Hour @ the Woodbine Public Library!

Don't forget, story hour starts today!!  11:00 - 12:00 in the Youth Library, and if you're coming from Pre-school, don't worry if it's a little after 11:00, just pop right in!!

Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Keeping the Freedom of the Written Word



The Woodbine Public Youth Library carries a variety of books - including books that have been challenged or banned. This week Sept. 24 through Oct. 1 is celebrated by the American Library Association and their members as "Banned Books Week."  The week is ment to highlight the benefits of free and open access to information while drawing attention to the harms of censorship by spotlighting actual or attempted bannings of books across the United States.  Above ar four books that have been challenged including: "Snakehead," part of the Alex Rider series by British author Anthony Horowits, challenged in an elementary school Flordia because "drug and weapons smuggling and gang violence is too much for any child to have access to"; "Betrayed," book two of the House of Night series by P.C. Case and Kristin Case, challenged in an Alaska high school because "it simply causes kids to think even more of things sexual"; "Speak" by Laurie aHalse Anderson, banned dut to story plot focused around sexual assault; and "Bone," a allcolor graphic novel series from Jeff Smith, challenged due to content regarding gambling, drinking and sexual appeal. The series is rated suitable for fourth grade and up, has won several awards, and received positive reviews from national publications, including Time, which touted the series as the "best all-ages graphic novel ever published."

 Woodbine Public Library celebrates "Banned Books Week"
Nikki Davis
Editor

  Woodbine Public Youth Librarian Wendy Doyel doesn’t think the concept itself is all that difficult. 
“Just don’t read it. How hard is that? If you don’t agree with a TV show, you don’t watch it. If you don’t like a movie, you don’t go to it. So if you don’t like a book, don’t read it. Don’t let your kids read it. It’s pretty simple to me,” Doyel said.
 The American Library Association always celebrates Banned Books Week the last week of September, falling Sept. 24 through Oct. 1 for 2011. Banned Books Week is meant to highlight the benefits of free and open access to information while drawing attention to the harms of censorship by spotlighting actual or attempted bannings of books across the United States.
  And it may hit closer to home then one would think.
  “Before I started working here, I was told there was a group that tried to ban the Harry Potter series from here,” Doyel said. “I don’t know how far they pushed, but I know that in the Library Bill of Rights that public libraries use, it states that, ‘Materials should not be proscribed or removed because of partisan or doctrinal disapproval,’ and ‘Libraries should challenge censorship in the fulfillment of their responsibility to provide information and enlightenment.’”
  Aside from that, Doyel cited attempted bannings in Waterloo as well as Kenawha and Newton. In 2007 in Newton, the classic novel, “Of Mice and Men” by John Steinbeck was challenged due to concerns of profanity and the portrayal of Jesus Christ. In Waterloo, ”The Catcher in the Rye” by JD Salinger was contested in 1992 due to profanity, lurid passages about sex and statements defamatory to minorities, God, women and the disabled.
  Other books, such as classics “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,” “Gone With the Wind” and “One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest” were banned due to the use of a now used derogatory term for those of African American descent.
“But you have to put things in context.  When these books were written, the context of the word was prevalent. It wasn’t written into these books to offend or upset people, it’s just the way it was. You’re going to ban a book for one word?” she asked. “Do I agree with the word myself? No. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to say, ‘Don’t read that book.’ You have to take it in context.”
  Doyel also cited “Whale Talk” by Chris Crutcher as being targeted in Harrison County’s own Missouri Valley. The Missouri Valley School Board voted 3-2 in March of 2007 to allow the book to be read by 10th through 12th graders, but if it was used in the classroom, parents would be allowed to select an alternative book. Brit Liljedahl, Brenda Dooley and Dan Zaiser voted in favor of the resolution while Trish Allmon and Mark Warner opposed it. 
Ironically, “Whale Talk” has been classified as carrying the primary themes of overcoming obstacles … and teaching tolerance and humanity.
  A bit of background information in the past 10 years regarding THE 4,660 books that were either challenged or banned from American libraries:
• 1,536 were challenged due to “sexually explicit” material
• 1,231 were challenged due to “offensive language”
• 977 were challenged due to material deemed “unsuited to age group”
• 553 were challenged due to “violence”
• 370 were challenged due to “homosexuality”
Out of those numbers, 1,720 of the challenges were in classrooms, 1,432 were in school libraries and 1,119 were in public libraries.
  And Doyel stands her ground … no books should be banned or even challenged. It’s a choice. It’s a freedom thing.
“It’s about freedom. It boils down to when people complain about the horrible things banned in other countries that do this or don’t do that. Then they come here and want the books taken out of schools and the libraries? It’s only a small thing … but you take these books out of the school and circulation, then what’s next? They tell you what clothes you can wear? What you can say? It all just spirals,” she said.  
  In honor of Banned Books Week, Doyel has set up a display inside the Youth Library with a list of statistical figures - including where certian books were banned and/or challenged and the reason(s) why.  All of which she believes can be fixed simply.
  "If you don't agree with it, don't read it.  Don't let your kids read it.  It's pretty simple to me," she said.  "They're books.  They are written for entertainment purposes."
  For more information on Banned Books Week, visit the Woodbine Public Library or visit the American Library Association's Website at www.ala.org. 

Friday, September 23, 2011

BANNED BOOKS WEEK

Stop in to see our Banned Books Week display @ the Woodbine Public Library on the youth side, it will be set up from now till October 1st.  You may just be surprised by what books have been banned and/or challenged.

Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Story Hour @ the Woodbine Public Library!

 Story Hour @ the Woodbine Public Library!


Story Hour for 3-5 year olds will begin on October 4, 2011.

It will be held Tuesday mornings from 11:00 – 12:00.

Story Hour runs from October till April.

If there’s no school we will not hold story hour.

Stories, crafts, games and fun!

Please join us for an hour of adventure!


Tuesday, September 20, 2011

The Woodbine Public Library will be closed Saturday September 24th for Applefest.

Wednesday, September 14, 2011

PAGES FROM THE LIBRARY Sept. 2011



Pages from the library by Rita Bantam


Another season is on the way.  Our weather has been great.  Compared to the other parts of the country, we are blessed to have such good weather.  The kids are back in school, football is upon us and Applefest is coming right up.  A lot of activities to enjoy and participate in.


The library has another shipment of books in.  They are: 

Non Fiction:
 “The Apple lovers Cookbook”
“Taste of Home Baking Book”,
Good Housekeeping Fast Weekend Favorites”,
“knit Simple Knitting Workshops”,
“The Farmer’s Almanac 2012”,
 Gooseberry Patch Christmas Book 13”.

Fiction: 
“Emory’s Gift” by Bruce Cameron,
“40 Love” by Madeline Wickham,
“Goddess of Vengeance” by Jackie Collins,
“Hot Property” by Michele Kleier,
“The Leftovers” by Tom Perrotta,
“The Most Dangerous Thing” by Laura Lippman,
“Second Nature”: A Love Story by Jacquelyn Mitchard,
“Wife-in-Law” by Haywood Smith,
“A Bitter Truth” by Charles Todd,
“The Dog Who Knew Too Much” by Spencer Quinn,
“Feast of Fools” by James Lee Burkey,
“New York to Dallas” by J.D. Robb,
“Robert B Parker’s Killing the Blues” (Jesse Stone), by Michael Brandman,
“The Tale of Castle Cottage” by Susan Wittig,
“Heartwishes” (Edilean), by Jude Deveraux,
“Prey” by Linda Howard,
“Saint’s Gate” by Carla Neggers,
“Abuse of Power” by Michael Savage,
“The Affair” by Lee Child,
“Lethal” by Sandra Brown,
“The Race” by Clive Cussler,
“Son of Stone” by Stuart Woods,
“The Vault” by Ruth Rendell,
“Kill Me if You Can” by James Patterson,
“Savage Texas” by William Johnston,
“ 1105 Yakima Street” by Debbie Macomber. 

Audio: 
“Miracle Cure” by Harlan Coben,
“Back of Beyond” by C. J. Box,
“Wrath of the Lion” by Jack Higgins,
“Bet Me” by Jennifer Cruise, 
“Coming Up for Air” by Pattie Callahan Henry. 

Large Print: 
“Seven Days to Die” by J. A. Johnston,
“The Lawless West” A Western Trio, by Louis L’Amour, Zane Grey, and Max Brand. 

The library has computers for patrons to use, magazines to check out and we now offer downloadable e-books and audio books.  All you need is internet connection and a library card.  The website is wilbor.lib.overdrive.com. 

Library hours are:  Tues.  10 – 5, Wed. 10 – 7, Thurs. 10 – 5, Fri. 10—05, Sat. 9 – 12.  Closed Sunday and Monday.   We will be closed on Applefest.   Phone:  712-647-2750

Library Quote:  “The dearest ones of time, the strongest friends of the soul—BOOKS.”---Emily Dickinson.

Wednesday, July 6, 2011

Thursday, June 23, 2011

Tuesday, June 21, 2011

Summer Library @ the Woodbine Public Library One World, Many Stories!

Connie Betts will be here at the Woodbine Library for the K-3rd grade Summer Library program! Be sure to attend as it will be an awesome time, as it always is when Connie is here!!

Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Summer Library!!!

Summer Library starts today @ the Woodbine Library! Make sure to attend and Teens, make sure to volunteer for those extra reading dollars!!!

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Summer Library Kick Off Event "Many Moccasins Dance Troupe"

The Many Moccasins Dance Troupe are set to preform as a kick off for the Summer Library program, June 1st 6:30 pm @ the Logan Community Center. All Summer Library Participants, PreK - 12th grade, are invited to attend. Extra reading dollars will be acquired for attending this event. Please come join us for an evening of fun!

Thursday, May 19, 2011

The Woodbine Public Library Needs Your Help!

The library is asking for your help!! Does anyone out there know of a local author, poet, artist, musician, etc. who would be willing to put on a program at the Woodbine Library sometime this summer? If you do please contact us, via phone, email, FB, Twitter or the Blog and let us know! We'd really like to do a few programs this summer at the library, maybe even on the front lawn if the weather cooperates!

Thursday, May 5, 2011

ONE WORLD, MANY STORIES



Summer Reading Program Information and Requirements

*      Upon registration participants will receive a Summer Library bag containing a Reading Log, Incentive sheets, Bookmark, Pencil and One World, Many Stories Activity book.
*      Once registered participants can start keeping track of the books they read by writing them in their reading log, please read age or ability appropriate books. 
*      Each age group of participants will have a required number of books, pages or minutes to read, or have read to them, in order to obtain their Reading Dollars:
·       PreK&KDG: 4 books=$1.00 (children unable to read may be read to)
·      1st – 3rd grade: 3 books = $1.00
·      4th – 6th grade: 100 pages = $1.00
·      Jr. High & High School: 100 minutes = $1.00
*      Participants can obtain extra Reading Dollars by completing the incentives sheets provided upon registering and by attending, or volunteering at, the Summer Library Activities.
*      The Summer Library Program will run for 8 weeks with programs every other week, participants will have assigned days for their In Library activities according to the grade they will be in next fall, Jr. high and High School will have the opportunity to volunteer.
·         PreK & KDG:  Tuesdays 10:30-11:30AM June 7th & 21st; July 5th & 19th
·         1st – 3rd Grades: Wednesdays 10:30-11:30 June 8th & 22nd; July 6th & 20th
·         4th – 6th Grades: Thursdays 10:30-11:30AM June 9th & 23rd; July 7th & 21st
·         Jr. High & High School:
- Volunteer to help with young kids (with 2 or 3 programs of their own)
*      Library Programs are not a requirement for the Summer Reading Program, if they are unable to attend, they can still track the books they read on their Reading Logs. 
*      Reading Logs must be brought into the library once a week, at any time, to be stamped and signed by the librarian in order to collect their earned dollars for that week.  If a participant is unable to bring in their Log, due to vacations and such, they may come in with a parent before hand and the librarian will stamp and sign off for the week or weeks they will be gone and participants can collect their dollars when they come back.
*      The Reading Dollars earned by PreK – 6th graders will go towards the End of Summer Pool/Pizza Party, Dollars earned by Jr. High & High School will go toward big prizes, the price of the party, & prizes, will be set in accordance to the participants age group:
·         PreK & KDG: $100.00
·         1st-3rd Grades: $80.00
·         4th-6th Grades: $50.00
·         Jr. High & High School: Ask for list of prizes and prices
*      The Reading Dollars can also be spent on the Buying Table that will be set up for Prek – 6th grade during the Summer Library Program.  Participants can come in at any time to spend their dollars if they like, or they may wait/save them till the last week.  A Buying Table will also be set up for Jr. High & High School during the last week of the Program.
*      All Reading Logs & Reading Dollars must be turned into the librarian by the last week of the program (July 19th – 26th) in order to collect their Pool/Pizza Party Pass and their Summer Library Reading Certificate.


Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Summer Library @ the Woodbine Public Library One World, Many Stories!

Registration for Summer Library has begun!!!!  If you will be in PreK - 12th grade next fall you can register in the Woodbine Public Youth Library for the Summer Reading Program from now till May 28th!

Thursday, April 28, 2011

The winners of the Easter Color Contest Egg-xtravaganza 2011!!!


1st place winner Heidi Goodrich.


2nd place winner Isabella Shaw.


3rd place winner Shayla Hamblen.

Wednesday, April 27, 2011

PAGES FROM THE LIBRARY BY RITA BANTAM April 2011

Last week was National Library Week and we would like to thank all the people who helped us celebrate.

More books have arrived at the library.  They are: 

Fiction: 

“Once upon a Time There Was You” by Elizabeth Berg
“West Texas Kill” by Johnny D Boggs
“I’ll Walk Alone” by Mary Higgins Clark
“5th Witness” by Michael Connelly
“Gun Law” by Ralph Cotton
“Crunch Time” by Diane Davidson
“Miles To Go” by Richard Evans
“Friendship Bread” by Darien Gee
“Phantom Evil” by Heather Graham
“Afraid of the Dark” by James Grippando
“Dead by Midnight” by Carolyn Hart
“Devious” by Lisa Jackson
“Field Gray” by Philip Kerr
“Wedding Promise” by Thomas Kinkade
“”Vixen” by Jullian Larkin
“Judgment” by Beverly Lewis
“Mothers and Daughters” by Rae Meadows
“The Dashwood Sisters Tells All” by Beth Pattillo
“Silver Boat” by Luanne Rice
“Chasing Fire” by Nora Roberts
“Save Me” by Lisa Scottoline
“Between Shades of Gray” by Ruta Sepetys
“44 Charles Street” by Danielle Steel
“Thunder Over Lolo Pass” by Charles G West
“Goodbye Quilt” by Susan Wiggs
“Driftwood Cottage” by Sherryl Woods. 

Non Fiction: 

“It Happened on the Way to War” by Rye Barcott
“Dancing Lessons” by Cheryl Burke
“No Place Like Home” by Steve Saint-Onge
 “Taste of Home Cookbook” by Taste of Home
 “Real Simple Dinner Tonight” by Real Simple.

At the end of May you will be able to e-books at the Woodbine Library.  More information will be available later.

Library quote “What is more important in a library than anything else is the fact that it exists.—Archilbald Macleish, U.S. Poet                                

Saturday, April 23, 2011

Easter Egg-xtravaganza Coloring Contest

Congratulations Heidi Goodrich, Isabella Shaw & Shayla Hamblen!! Winners of the Easter Egg-xtravaganza Coloring Contest!!

Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Thank You

Thank you everyone who helped us celebrate National Library Week!! 

Friday, April 15, 2011

National Library Week - 2nd Grade

Thank you 2nd grade for visiting us at the Woodbine Public Library for National Library Week!  We loved having you and hope to see you again soon!!

Clara Gillow Clark: Spilling Ink Writing Contest for Young Authors

Clara Gillow Clark: Spilling Ink Writing Contest for Young Authors: "It's The 2nd Annual SPILLING INK WRITING CONTEST for Grades 4-8 It's spring and we're jumping right into a writing extravaganza usin..."

Thursday, April 14, 2011

National Library Week - 3rd grade

Thank you 3rd grade for visiting us at the library for National Library Week!!  We hope to see you back again soon!

National Library Week - 1st Grade

Thank you 1st grade for visiting us at the Woodbine Public Library for National Library Week!  We enjoyed having you and hope to see you again soon!

Wednesday, April 13, 2011

National Library Week

Thank you School Staff for joining us at the library for National Library Week!

stacks, racks & bookpacks: National Library Week 2011

stacks, racks & bookpacks: National Library Week 2011: "National Library Week is April 10 - 16. Please visit your local library to show your support of all they do. Without libraries communitie..."

Friday, March 25, 2011

National Library Week 2011




National Library Week is April 10 - 16. Please visit your local library to show your support of all they do. Without libraries communities lose a big part of their heart!


Thursday, March 24, 2011

Easter Coloring Contest Egg-stravaganza


The Woodbine Public Library is hosting an Easter Coloring Contest Egg-stravaganza, giving kids kindergarten through third grade the opportunity to win prizes.

Coloring sheets are available at the Woodbine Public Library. There are no limits on the contest, as long as contestants use the coloring sheet provided by the library, and each child turning in a picture will receive a small prize.

Kids can take the coloring sheet home to color and we also  have crayons and markers available here in the library. If the kids would like to sit and color their pictures here, they are more than welcome. 

All entries must be turned in by April 16th and will be displayed around the library.

First through third place will be awarded a stuffed animal.

The Woodbine Youth Library is located at 58 Fifth St. with hours of operation being: 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Tuesday, Thursday and Friday; 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. on Wednesday; 9 a.m. to noon Saturday; and closed on Sunday and Monday. 

Contact the library at 712-647-2750 with questions.

BOOK BLURBS

Finally it’s SPRING!  Time to get outside and enjoy the weather after months of being indoors and, bundling up from the cold.  There’s lots of things going on suddenly also; track has started, we’re in the finale stretch of school, the spring play is coming up, it’s almost time for National Library Week , make sure and watch for upcoming events for that week, and soon it will be time to register for the Summer Reading Program ONE WORLD, MANY STORIES.  But in the mean time I’ve got some fun and exciting new books to enjoy, maybe under a newly budding tree!

CHILDREN:

Red Wagon by Renata Liwska;  If you remember having a red wagon as a kid, and all the adventures you could have in it, you’ll enjoy seeing how Lucy makes a boring trip to the market into an exciting adventure with her red wagon.
Just Being Audrey by Margaret Cardillo; This is Audrey Hepburn as a little girl, and actress, an icon, and inspiration; this is Audrey just being Audrey.
Silverlicious by Victoria Kann; First there was Pinkalicious and Purplicious, then came Goldilicious and now new adventures for everybody’s favorite little girl!
Soccer Hour by Carol Nevius
Hatch! By Roxie Munro; A book all about birds and how they Hatch!
Strange Creatures: The Story of Walter Rothschild and His Museum by Lita Judge; A real story of a shy little boy who became one of the world’s most brilliant scientists, just by following his dream.
My Farm Friends by Wendell Minor
When Katie’s Parents Separated by Sarah, Duchess of York; A Helping Hand Book
Jacob Goes to the Doctor and Sophie Visits the Dentist by Sarah, Duchess of York; A Helping Hand Book.
Matthew and the Bullies by Sarah, Duchess of York; A Helping Hand Book.
Molly Makes Friends by Sarah, Duchess of York; A Helping Hand Book.
Olivia Says Goodbye to Grandpa by Sarah, Duchess of York; A Helping Hand Book.
Let the Whold Earth Sing Praise by Tomie dePaola; A joydul way to honor the planet.
Ants in Your Pants, Worms in Your Plants! (Gilbert Goes Gree) by Diane deGroat; Gilbert has to try and come up with an orginal Earth Day project.
Looking For the Easy Life by Walter Dean Myers; The monkeys on Monkey Island find out, easy isn’t always good, and a little herd work isn’t always bad.
Look! A Book! By Bob Staake; A zamy seek-and find- adventure.
Children Make Terrible Pets by Peter Brown; When Lucy, a young bear, finds a boy in the woods, she asks her mother if she can keep him as a pet, only to find him impossible to train.
Everything But the Horse by Holly Hobbie; When Holly’s family moves from the city to a farm, she longs to get a horse. Based on events in the author’s childhood.
How to Hug by Maryann Macdonald
Suki the Very LOUD Bunny by Carmela & Steven D’Amico
Biscuit and the Lost Teddy Bear by Alyssa Satin Capucilli; A My First I Can Read! Book.
Middle Readers:

Midnight Howl by Clare Hutton; A Poison Apple Book.
Bone: Quest For the Spark, Book One by Jeff Smith; A thrilling return to the world of Bone.
Amelia’s BFF *Best Friends Forever, Best Friends Fighting, Best friends for now? By Marissa Moss
What’s Bugging Bailey Blecker? By Gail Donovan; When 5th grader Bailey suffers a series of setbacks, including a lice outbreak at school, it will take determination and the help of new friends to get everything back together.
The Secret Zoo: Secrets and Shadows by Bryan Chick; Only weeks after their return from the Secret Zoo, Noah and his friends must go back.

TEENS:

Fade To Blue by Sean Beaudoin: A popsicle truck ran over Sophie Blue. And then high school really started to suck.
Uprising by Margaret Peterson Haddix: Three young women, along with hundreds of other immigrants, come together to for fight terrible working conditions and form a union in 1911 New York, and then experience one of the worst workplace disasters ever. A true story.
Iron Queen by Julie Kagawa; Summer fades. I ce melts. Here’s what’s left.
Angel: A Maximum Ride Novel by James Patterson; Angel knows how it all ends…do you?!
Cryer’s Cross by Lisa McMann; The smaller the town the bigger the secrets.
Evercrossed: A Kissed by an Angel novel by Elizabeth Chandler
The Children of the Lost by David Whitley; Book two of The Agora Trilogy
Wonderland by Joanna Nadin; Jude is invisible, obscure and unremarkable. Nothing beautiful or striking, just a girl with no mom…until Stella.
Darkest Mercy by Melissa Marr; The final Wicked Lovely book!
Kindred by Tammar Stein; Miriam, visited by archangel Raphael, and set upon a mission. Her twin brother, Mo(Moses), visited by the opposite end of the good-evil spectrum. Has she been blessed and her brother cursed or vice versa, and what is the real purpose behind her mission?
The Charmed Return by Frewin Jones; Book Six of The Faerie Path.
Closer by Roderick Gordon; Book 4 in the New York Times Bestselling Tunnels Series!
Leverage by Joshua C. Cohen; “Sports novels don’t hit much harder than this.” –Booklist, starred review
Vesper by Jeff Sampson; Emily Webb is a geek, and she likes it that way, until she starts to change and she’s not the only one. Who is turning teens into monsters-and how many people will they kill to get what they want?